Episode 22

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Published on:

19th Jan 2023

Vinyl Sales, Rolling Stone's Top 200 Singers, Iggy Pop in AC/DC , Danzig sings Elvis (S7 E22)

Welcome to Sounds On Vinyl, the only podcast for hard rock, metal, and blues lovers passionate about the warm sound of vinyl records.

This week, Mike & Phil discuss the latest trends in vinyl sales, as well as the Rolling Stones' Top 200 Singers (which we think is total bullshit). Did Iggy Pop really get asked to front AC/DC? We have our doubts and we share who would have been a better pick over Iggy and even Axl Rose. Of course, this leads us to some thoughts on Danzig singing Elvis Classics.

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hey hey this is the sounds on final show the only show in the freaking

[phil]:

world that will make your ears bleed this week we've got as tony ione nita

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straus ike pop c d c and some ship about vinal so we'll be right

[phil]:

back to make your ears bleed yeah hey hey my name as always is phil

[phil]:

boyer and from across the vast open seas where the vikings once ruled is my

[phil]:

brother from another mother professor rock star extraordinary let singer of bands past prison future

[phil]:

mike fence and mike what the hell is going on

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oh it's going good it's it's so much to do being going to be opening

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the record story in a couple of months so i'm buying a ship load of

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yeah

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albums putting up shelves on and and

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yeah

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doing the best i can to make the place look really good so

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yeah

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it's going to be a lot of fun

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yeah

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this sounds on final record story

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yeah you sent me a picture before we started recording here and it's looking

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m

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it's

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yeah

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shaping up and it's looking it's looking

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it's

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good

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up yeah

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it's looking good

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all right

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yeah

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it is cool or okay so i just want to start since i'm the vinal

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guy vinal nord or

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oh

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whatever the heck we want to call me i got a d m talking about

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how to differ between how to tell the difference between newly

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i

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pressed album and an old one so

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i

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i tried to explain this because for me it's so like yeah well you know

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it's just look at the record

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oh

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and what not then i had to explain

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at

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and i had to send pictures even

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oh

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so we've talked about this

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oh

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a lot of times before especially with with soren

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oh

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who is the ultimate vinal nord the book called all about final or in

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yeah

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scandinavian altum venue

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oh

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so i got a little album hair

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oh

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and the way for you to tell because

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a

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they're sneaky sometimes the new or pressings they

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yeah

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tend to look exactly

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oh

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like the old one so what you need to do is to take your

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no

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your your album here

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yeah

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your vinal record and then you look

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what

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for this it's the called the run out grove here so in there it's sort

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of like a mirror thing where you see all the groves that go right up

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until the end here

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oh

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then you get some sort of like a blank spot here and here's numbers and

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oh

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and if you look at

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no

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those real closely

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it

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it it's it's there is

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the

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at some on some albums

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yet

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there is even inscriptions

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oh

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from the guys that have

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ah

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has remostered the album or or cut the album and the tentially

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oh

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their initials so we talked about this

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oh

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with robert ludwig who did the

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sapling to and done kiss alive he has r

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l in his markings on right next student you can find some numbers on this

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oh

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one it says two three nine one two two four

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oh

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five one dash three so and this is a rainbow album

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right

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right here

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yeah

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and with that number

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yeah

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you can tell whether it's new york pressing

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yeah

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or or an old one original if that's what you're looking for and and the

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best suggestion that i have is

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no

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go on a page called disco

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i

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disco

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yeah

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dot com and then you can

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yeah

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see all the listings for all the releases

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my

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and an artist have done with that kelly album so so that's it that's what

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you need to look for the matrix

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yeah

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numbers in the rana grub

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there you go

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there you go that's my five cents on renal records today

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awesome hey and speaking of

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it is

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final records so they

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hm

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are on the rise sales are on the rise of final records which

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oh

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is

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yeah

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your year

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yes

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year the sales from twenty one to twenty twenty two are up three point eight

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percent three point eight percent two point two million records were sold during the last

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week of december right before christmas compared to only two point one in the year

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before twenty twenty one um and it usually pops right before christmas obviously people are

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buying final his presence and stuff like that but that's pretty

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yeah

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slick so three almost four percent man that's awesome

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yeah i tried to explain this to to ordinary

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ye

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disturbed people

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oh

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uh that

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yeah

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just just to get a grip on

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ah

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on how big vinal records

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oh

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are today for the general person when aba did their reunion the aba voyage album

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they released that one on both on sid and on final

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ah

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and this is a band that hasn't released an album in forty years s

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right

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so they decided to do some new tracks and and release a new album now

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the pressing plants here in europe they were all booked by aba

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ah

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cause they pre ordered a million copies

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jes

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a million copies

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yeah

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for their brand new album

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hm

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so and that hasn't been done since the nineties i mean i mean units for

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for ilium for aba or you tube or

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ah

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the rolling stones that's that's that's

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yes

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peanuts in the nineties but this is like two thousand and twenty one thousand and

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twenty two i mean a million units gee

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re ordering a

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hm

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million units so and how did it go h i think it was sort of

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like two and a half weeks they sold out

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a million units

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damn

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and they had to repress it

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damn

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and the english artist adele it's more like in the pobulagena i mean abbey is

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an older band five hundred thousand

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copies

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even that's

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pre

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too much

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ordered

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well no i didn't

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yet

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say anything

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even though well you see i mean abe million units

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oh

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and adele i mean a smaller artist the nabob five hundred units that i mean

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that's insane

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it is yeah

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so so that's how big vina list nowadays

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yeah

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so it's cooler

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yeah that's cool

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oh

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it's awesome

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yeah

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it's good for

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so what's

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you

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going on in the news

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it's good for you

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it's

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with

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good

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the

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for me

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yeah with

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oh

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the

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yeah

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record star

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oh oh yeah

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sure

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oh yeah fuck it it's crazy

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yeah

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i love it

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all right what t do you got on the news front what's on your list

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oh yeah

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yeah

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here's here's a different different thing that i heard about

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yeah

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read about

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yeah

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gie pop was

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asked

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to join a

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yeah

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c d c

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bullshit

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at some point

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i call bullshit

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what yeah i think i think so too i mean didn't quite understand if

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yeah

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there wasn't a real

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yeah

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request about that i mean did he get

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ye

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the call from angus

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yes

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hey when you join i mean what's up with that what kind of news is

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that

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i

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would would would they even consider one another

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i it's just that's not a good fit i can't imagine that

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no

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but that just now now i've seen there's a lot of people are coming out

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what i was to be part of this band and you know it's like okay

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that's easy to say twenty years later like you know

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yeah

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you probably

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yeah

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had that in a drug induced dream or some ship that never fucking happened

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yeah

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i copilshit on a lot

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no

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of this stuff

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yeah

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you know

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but why would pop i mean his career is i mean

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oh

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it's it's almost bigger than c d c i mean all the ship that he's

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done i mean or

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ye

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i mean similar but why would they let

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oh

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go to i mean that it's insane he's a punk rock icon and

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and is it is or like a

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oh

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blues

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yeah

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can roll band

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it just

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so

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doesn't doesn't work doesn't fit

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it doesn't doesn't fit

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no

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at all

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no

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so it's nuts

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like

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we call bullshit down

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yeah

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that one

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yeah i mean if you're going to go for a punk rock icon feel like

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somebody like glen danzig would fit c d c lot better

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oh

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you

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yeah

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know that i could see

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yeah

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actually you know what if instead of axel rose i feel like lyndangsig would have

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been ave better pick to go on on tour with a c d c his

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last rout but

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could you hear him a lot of rose

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oh

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yeah

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it's no more like

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m

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elves

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have you heard dancing sing his elves

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oh god it's bad

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he did and

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it's so

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oh

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bad

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it's horrible

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so i mean

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oh

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i love danzigdangsis you know

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oh me

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his

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too

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career with the misfits

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and miss

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and all

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fits

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that i mean come on sam

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oh

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and of course

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jess

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dancing but now that was that was i don't know man

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yeah

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i don't know i don't know

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i remember sitting down and try and

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no

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so i'm going

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right

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really on to listen to this i'm sorry oh shit i mean is this for

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real but

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yes

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i couldn't i mean two or three songs saying that i had to stop it

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was i don't know

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no i see i'm not an vis fan but i am a danzig fan and

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that said

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yeah

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i've made my feelings known about l vi and i would rather listen to all

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those elis songs by elvas singing them than danzig trying to do those it was

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yeah

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it's just

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and i'm an im a nail of this fan and i thought it was i

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mean

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it was

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really

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just

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horrible

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it wasn't good it was not good

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oh

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not good

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man

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at all

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no

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now

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no

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but

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oh

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speaking

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crap

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of singers

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hm

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fucking rolling stone have you seen this bullshit they put out with their top singers

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what is it like five hundred or two hunter greatest singer list

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oh

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yeah well oh

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have they done it

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yeah

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themselves

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yeah the rolling stone magazine

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yeah

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they put out their two hundred greatest singers list and i'm going to go through

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okay

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here and i'm going to share just just the rock based singers off the list

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all right

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so number twelve john lennon

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okay

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number fourteen freddy mercury i know you're not a freddy mercury fan but

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oh but

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but to

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fourteen

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have him

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geese

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him underneath john lennon

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jesus

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no a twenty eight palma cartney thirty two

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okay

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david boy again david boy is an icon but a great singer

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yeah

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i don't know mick jagger

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oh

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he's number fifty two um

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jesus

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m okay number sixty three robert plant robert plants all the way at sixty three

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oh my god

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ah

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who seemed to top

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i don't know that i don't know chris cornell chris fucking cornell number eighty steve

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perry

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jesus

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eighty two eddy venter eddie fucking veter that dude can't sing

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uh

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sounds like he's having a fucking seizure when

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uh

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he sings what the hell one o five one o nine is

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oh

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roger dultry roger

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jesus

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adultery is underneath fucking eddie vetter and chris cornell are you fucking serious ouse

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jes

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is that one twelve rob halford

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oh man

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rob halford one twenty nine rob alford is

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ah

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under eddivetter and chris cornell are you fucking kidding me with that

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it

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axel rose

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jesus

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one thirty four ronnie

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oh

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james fucking deo one sixty five one sixty five

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what

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they put

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the fuck

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they put all these assholes on top wealth not all as holes i take that

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back but fucking ronnie dios way under one is that one sixty five we way

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towards the bottom of this two hundred list this is that too

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oh

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honored

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my

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so they thought

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gosh

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he was only in like the bottom like quarter of this list it's fucking bullshit

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ike pop we were just talking about pop one seventy six bob segar one eighty

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one and we also talked about danzig he is at one ninety nine just barely

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got in there under the two hundred i read this and i couldn't bear to

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listen to to take a peek at the

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oh

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top

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my

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ten

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god

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i have no idea s in the top ten but that list is fucking bullshit

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you got bruce dickinson

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oh my

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is

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god

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not on there jeff tate when his heyday was phenomenal singer not on their

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yeah

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it's just it's fucking it's sick man like who the fuck came up with this

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list

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jesus christ

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fuck rolling stone i'm gonna say that funk you rolling stone fucking ridiculous

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i mean it is it is ridiculous

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oh

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i mean jesus christ

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yeah

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now now i'm curious i have have

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you have

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to

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to

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know

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go look

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i have to go look man

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it's i don't know

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jess

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it's

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it's a fucking insane list

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an and for

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jesus

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being

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christ

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on aus is not a great singer it works

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no

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it works for sabbath it works for his solo stuff but i mean no no

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man no it's just

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up twenty real quick

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yeah

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twenty is marvin gay nineteen

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frank senatra

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frank senate didn't even fucking sing he talked singed

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eight eightingselia cruise

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i don't even know who the fun that is

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no seventeen albs sixteen prince he's not even in the top town jesus oh my

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god

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how

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number fifteen bob dan in the bas mix

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ah

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men's man the payment fred mercury fourteen jesus christ patsy cline thirteen oh my god

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yeah

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little richard eleven okay all green number ten this reading nine

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yeah

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beyond c eight

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yeah

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t v wonder okay i can see it at number seven

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ray chars

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number six maria carry number five

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like

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oh my god

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jesus christ

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really holiday number four okay i can see that sam cook number three whitney houston

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number two

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i

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and the number one singer of all times okay i can i can buy that

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read to franklin but jesus christ prince not even in the top town oh

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and

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my god

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there were so many that along on that list you know from the days

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oh yeah

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of the blues and all that like i'm sorry but beyond say are you fucking

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kidding me really especially higher than ronnie do are you fucking

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oh

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kidding me the fact that ronny deal wasn't even in the top five

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oh

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on that list i mean that's a fucking joke it's a fucking joke

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it is

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fuck you rolling stone

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it is

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i'm going to say it again

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uh uh oh man

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n fact that's gonna be the title show fuck you rolling stone oh

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there you go okay i'm i'm smoothing things out a bit i'm talking about because

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we're planning on doing a women special of rock we're talking about this so i'm

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gonna sneak peak a bit and and drawing a guitar player that i had had

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my eyes on for for quite some time name

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m

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is nita straus used to play with with alice cooper for like several years i

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oh

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think six or seven years at least but then she decided to try something different

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and i think she's playing with demilovato

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ah

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a a right now but she's releasing solar stuff for self and it's it's it's

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more metal and hard rock than dendmilovado

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e even did a thing with

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oh my god sir and white glose from from our enemy i can remember first

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alis

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name

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lisa lisa

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lisa alicia white

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yeah

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as they did a thing together and i think it's it's cool because this is

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a young guitar player a woman that has been trying to to get noticed for

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such a long time

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oh

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and all of a sudden alis cooper

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ye

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cesar and things that wow this this could work really well and to see that

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there are platforms for young women to take a stand and and

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a

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make something of themselves with like music or or theater or whatever but like this

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and in the rock and roll industry where is a lot of guys playing tar

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in bands on an and what not so to be able to to to be

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like some sort of like guitar hair or because

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yeah

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she has clinics have seen online

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yes

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and there is a lot the younger kids especially young girls

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m

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that

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yeah

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tend to her clinic

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oh

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and look up to her so i think that's that's a great thing

[phil]:

yeah

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and she's got to i knew all of them coming out so so that's that's

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going to be cool so we're going to talk more about women in and in

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rock and rolled in in the future hero an

[phil]:

yes

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so

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yes that's in the it's in the works we're not quite sure what

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yes

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that's going to look like it might end up being just an

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no

[phil]:

episode or might be a little many documentary like our sweden rock dock enter which

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if you haven't seen

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yeah

[phil]:

go check it out there's be a link in the description but yeah yeah looking

[phil]:

forward to that

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cool

[phil]:

yeah you got something on your on your news list that i also picked so

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oh cool let's go

[phil]:

tony omi

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do it only one man

[phil]:

sabbath yes what

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the riff moster

[phil]:

more re issues come in our way from black sabbath the tony martin era

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yeah

[phil]:

i guess they're going to re release

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yeah

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and apparently

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a

[phil]:

he's writing a new record

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oh oh

[phil]:

do

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do we want a new record for ntoniaomi

[phil]:

yeah

[phil]:

yeah i think i do

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i think so too

[phil]:

i think so too i mean the dude has got i mean you've heard the

[phil]:

rumors you know he's got like all these rifts in a box somewhere in his

[phil]:

vault right he's got rift after rift after rift most haven't even seen the light

[phil]:

of day i mean i bet you if he released an album of just rifts

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uh

[phil]:

he would fucking sell

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uh

[phil]:

it would sound

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yeah

[phil]:

because

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yeah

[phil]:

i mean tthe dude is he's definitely up there he's got that signature sound that

[phil]:

nobody has been able to replicate many of try but you know there's nobody can

[phil]:

nobody's tony nobody can do that oh

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you know what what i just figure i mean wouldn't it be cool to do

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it i would love a buck set from that guy

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hm

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from like the get go from from the beginning where he started out doing demos

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h

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i would listen to that

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m

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in an instant

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m

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i mean and i would bet that

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yeah

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he's an english dude i mean it wouldn't cost a million dollars for him to

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release that i mean we would we would see that up with our mating i

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mean sorry for motor head and and and those bands for for a lot like

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beneath the hundred dollars for

[phil]:

hm

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for a box set so i think that be cool i mean could you imagine

[phil]:

ah

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here in

[phil]:

oh

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those first demos that he did for earth

[phil]:

yeah

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i mean fuck in hell or even i mean even demos for the first sabbath

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albums paranoid and and what not jesus

[phil]:

yeah i mean you could go on youtube and you can hear some of those

[phil]:

early earth demos and and some

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yeah

[phil]:

even like the it was sort of that in between between earth and sabbath and

[phil]:

man that stuff is so dark

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yeah

[phil]:

and heavy and

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it is

[phil]:

it's

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yeah

[phil]:

it's what a time that was yeah that would be that would be awesome to

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see

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that would be a thing

[phil]:

yeah

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man

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that'd be

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fuck

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slack

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in hell oh man to

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so

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it's

[phil]:

yeah i think

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a mean

[phil]:

i want a record i think i could

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yeah

[phil]:

go for some new music you know especially

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yeah

[phil]:

if he did some collaborations i mean funk if robert plant did guest vocals on

[phil]:

there or something or

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oh

[phil]:

like

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man

[phil]:

roger daltree or some of those old guys you know from the sixties and seventies

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yeah

[phil]:

that would be slick

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and

[phil]:

oh

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antony feels like a guy who wouldn't release any music if it wasn't good

[phil]:

hm

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i mean

[phil]:

ye

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if he if he thought well i need more money in my bank account

[phil]:

yeah

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so i need to force myself to do another album that's not tony

[phil]:

no

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that's not tony at all so i'm thinking that when he decides to release this

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album it's going to be good

[phil]:

yes yeh so hopefully it will happen hopefully we'll see it because that will

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yeah

[phil]:

be slick yeah

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oh man colors

[phil]:

yeah

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so what's what's else into

[phil]:

that's

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news

[phil]:

all i got man that's it

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that's all you

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it's

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got

[phil]:

it it was

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damn

[phil]:

it was slow man you know i think the holiday slowed things down a little

[phil]:

bit

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yeah

[phil]:

everybody's kind of taken a breather but

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yeah

[phil]:

yeah

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i just want to mention the thing because because i got a new generation here

[phil]:

m

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at home

[phil]:

oh

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with my masons is turning into a big medal

[phil]:

m

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so we're listening to a documentary about natalia and because he wants to know everything

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at the moment he wants to go see them he wants to listen to all

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the albums and he is wearing t shirts and he's

[phil]:

a

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he's looking through red lightning

[phil]:

oh

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kill them all and most or puppets

[phil]:

yeah

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pictures

[phil]:

yeah

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so far it's all the chit that dot i am

[phil]:

yeah

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saved from back into day so we're listening to this documentary on swedish radio

[phil]:

yes

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and gets to the point where they talk about dave mitaine

[phil]:

yeah

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and they talk about him starting to drink and i became angry and violent

[phil]:

yeah

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and so forth and then all of a sudden they decided to do fire this

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guy and then they

[phil]:

oh

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moved along and in the show and and all of a sudden they are talking

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about the big four

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m

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which hit gothenburg

[phil]:

he

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with

[phil]:

what

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slayer and megatethaand metallic and athrixandand i explained to him as

[phil]:

oh

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you remember that guy who got fired right before they released our first album yeah

[phil]:

yeah

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his name was dave mustane

[phil]:

a

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and he formed a band called megateth

[phil]:

oh

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which is part of the big four played together with metallic slayer and and outhraks

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oh that's cool and you know what he still cries

[phil]:

my

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to this

[phil]:

oh

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day for not being in metallic at what yeah he actually cries it was just

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a couple of

[phil]:

yeah

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months ago he cannot swallow that still that he got fired from italica but he

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played

[phil]:

what

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in front of sixty five thousand in gothenburg together

[phil]:

yeah

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with with his former band mates together with slayer together we anthrax because he is

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in a band that he formed himself which is called the big four and you

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heard him go quiet a bit

[phil]:

m

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is he stupid

[phil]:

oh

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i said

[phil]:

okay

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well

[phil]:

oh

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i'm just giving you the fact i'm giving you the fact so we talked about

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this

[phil]:

yes

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because i saw that that they're planning on undoing another album and he's been struggling

svensson]:

with cancer or what not but and we talked about this

[phil]:

oh

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because

[phil]:

oh

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i got a chance to buy a couple of metal albums

[phil]:

i

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and and

[phil]:

yeah

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p elson who's buying what was

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

and that makes for the store and and i showed him and the picture and

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the art work and so forth which i think is really cool by the way

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not the music so much but the art work

[phil]:

ah

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and we came to talk about this and and

[phil]:

yeah

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we we compared all all this i mean

[phil]:

yeah

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mayhem that that was in the in the eighties with all the record carvers and

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all the metal heads that that like you and i right with our bikes and

[phil]:

yeah

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meeting up and with friends and so forth having

[phil]:

yeah

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our boom box and so forth and megadet

[phil]:

yeah

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was in that

[phil]:

oh

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mix because it was also

[phil]:

oh

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in the eighties so he did have

[phil]:

i

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pretty great career and still has one if i'm not mistaken i don't know i

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think megatix is still around

[phil]:

yeah they just put out a new

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so

[phil]:

record or they're about

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yeah

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to

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okay

[phil]:

one of the two

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i wanted to do yeah i'm not keeping track so but but it's strange

[phil]:

yeah

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to to hear

[phil]:

ye

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and and there was an expert on metallic on this documentary and she said the

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same thing he just and let this go still today he just cannot let

[phil]:

yeah

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it go that he was fired but it's

[phil]:

i

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it's i mean if that was it for him i would understand but but it's

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it's

[phil]:

you know what

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i mean it's

[phil]:

he's

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incense

[phil]:

one of those narsisists that

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ah

[phil]:

he's like trump and elon mosk and these guys that

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oh

[phil]:

think that they're that they're the best thing that ever happened to the world and

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yeah

[phil]:

the he canes megadeth yes he's had a good career megadeth has made a name

[phil]:

it's it's a it's a big band but it's still a piss in the bucket

[phil]:

compared to metallica

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uh

[phil]:

and he can't he can't

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uh

[phil]:

accept

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yeah

[phil]:

that he can't

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

he can't accept that he's not as good as metallica is now if if if

[phil]:

he was bigger than metal we would still hear about it because he would say

[phil]:

you know metallic made the mistake and they fired me and look how big i

[phil]:

am and look how small they are it's just his

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yeah

[phil]:

personality he will never let it go because he's a fucking seis psychopath that thinks

[phil]:

he's

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oh

[phil]:

more talented than he is and he just needs to suck and move on or

[phil]:

i don't know we all need to move on you can send all your

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

hate mail to me if you want

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

but that's just my

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yeah

[phil]:

my interpretation of dave mistaine i mean

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yeah

[phil]:

i don't know

svensson]:

but but it's strange because because

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

i'm trying to i mean it's not that i'm not moving along because i really

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don't care but

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

but since i mean this is a new documentary

[phil]:

oh

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swedish national

[phil]:

i

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radio and they talk

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

about this the way that we talk about it more diploma

[phil]:

oh

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of course because it's natural radio but still they have to mention it if if

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that was the case that there was it's just a blip in history map when

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he talked about metallic they wouldn't mention it all so this dude they was saying

svensson]:

he got fired

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

because he was drunk and hit people and he got angry and he couldn't play

svensson]:

his inter instrument moving along with the metallic history no then the

[phil]:

right

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expert

[phil]:

uh

svensson]:

expert on the talk comes in and she says well

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

m this is my interpretation of the whole thing

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

and she has the same feelings that we

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

do more

[phil]:

hm

svensson]:

diblematie of course still but it's it's still to this day

[phil]:

no

svensson]:

i mean won't go away because he won't go away

[phil]:

no no and those kind of people they don't they run a lot of things

[phil]:

that they touch and they don't see it that way they don't see that that

[phil]:

it's that it's on them you know you look at what you know to really

[phil]:

go off topic here you look at what elan musk has done to twitter and

[phil]:

then the two months he's

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yeah

[phil]:

been at the helm i mean it's a dempster fire you know he's getting

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

the headquarters he's getting advicted from you know in two months he's set this thing

[phil]:

so far much on fire you know who knows what's going to happen i don't

[phil]:

know i mean he's going to have he's going a have to bring somebody in

[phil]:

you look at trump and say what you want about his politics but the dude's

[phil]:

bankrupted pretty much every single company he's overstarted these guys are there they can't see

[phil]:

reality right and i think they've mistained the same way he can't see reality he

[phil]:

can't see that had metallic kept in the band there would be no metallica today

[phil]:

we wouldn't have had we might have had writ the lightning but we wouldn't have

[phil]:

had anything past that we wouldn't have had a third fourth they wouldn't be the

[phil]:

biggest fan that they are today um so i mean that said it's not that

[phil]:

bad because then we wouldn't have had the black album so that version of history

svensson]:

you had to go there fucking

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

ell you had to go there

[phil]:

but but enough about

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oh

[phil]:

that enough

svensson]:

man

[phil]:

about that guy i mean

svensson]:

no

[phil]:

it is you know it is what it is you know and

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

and you know just we have we have metallica and they seem to be going

[phil]:

on a better troductory these days of doing better uh you know heavier music and

[phil]:

not the poppy based they were doing there for a while in the nineties and

[phil]:

early two thousand so i don't know we'll see it's an evolution for sure

svensson]:

we'll see yeah

[phil]:

yep

svensson]:

you can follow everything here on the sand so vile

[phil]:

right

svensson]:

we're talking more

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

metallic

[phil]:

yes and with that i guess it's time

svensson]:

what

[phil]:

to get the fuck out of here unless you got some last words

svensson]:

it is no

[phil]:

that's it

svensson]:

no last words

[phil]:

all right so until next week go listen to some megadethlater

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later

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Sounds On Vinyl
Mike Svensson, the lead singer of the bands Grand Rezerva, Dead Anarchy & Solid Rust and Phil Bowyer, co-founder of BoozeHound Entertainment talk about collecting and listening to vinyl records. Intro and Outro music by Grand Rezerva (http://grandrezerva.com).
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